Saturday, December 31, 2011

Drug Testing

Found this cartoon that seemed to fit the theme of this post!!

"the fucking bottom feeders on welfare can just damn well do the piss tests."

This comment totally missed the point of my last post!!  That post wasn't a rant against drug testing, this one is.  The last post was about those that make the rules should also follow those rules.  WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE GOOSE IS GOOD FOR THE GANDER!!!!!!  One of the problems in this country is there's two Americas, one for those who have to follow the rules and pay and those to whom the rules are mere suggestions and not really ones they need to obey unless they choose to obey them and to whom stuff is given freely even tho they can more than afford to pay.

Hey, if the president has to piss in a cup(and he does), then a piss-ant congress-critter can too!!!!!!
The real issue here is not drugs, but rather the issues of privacy, due process, probable cause, and the fourth amendment. We are dealing with a constitutional issue of the utmost importance. It raises the question of whether or not we understand the overriding principle of the 4th amendment."  Ron Paul '97

Now if it's a 4th amendment issue for Congress, it should also be a 4th Amendment issue for all of us.  I remember learning when I was in school that in this country a person is innocent until proven guilty, but with the way drug testing is done you are guilty until you prove you're innocent.  Totally ass-backwards. 

Another reason I am against drug testing willy-nilly is the tests are unreliable.  When you are going to do thousands of tests, you go with the low bidder regardless of the results.  When there is a false positive, that person will play hell trying to clear their name or may never know the result and will wonder why they are having so much trouble getting a job!!  If it's a false negative, then the test is bogus.  You haven't accomplished anything with the test and would have had the same result without the test and saved money at the same time.  Why don't they report on the inaccuracy of drug testing any more, don't think they've improved, just nobody talks about it anymore!!

When they first started this bullshit of drug testing, the rationale was public safety.  Test those that whose jobs could be a hazard to the public, truck drivers, pilots, train operators, and those in sensitive government positions, etc. (The military has their own fucked up rules and really isn't part of this discussion.)  Then it became big business to test everyone with a blue collar, pink collar, or no collar, but not white collar!!!  I say if you are going to drug test, piss test the suits, they can afford the good drugs!!!

Testing those at the bottom end of the economic scale is a waste.  The cartoon in the last post about how only 2% of welfare applicants tested positive is based on fact. Those people probably had the money to buy drugs before they had to sign up for welfare. Once on welfare, who can afford drugs, and if they spend their miserable puny amount of money on drugs, who the fuck cares???   The only ones that benefit from drug testing those on welfare, food stamps, unemployment etc. are the companies that make the tests and those that administer the tests.  Also it may give some jollies to the sadistic bastards that think if someone is poor they should suffer as much as possible.

This need to denigrate the poor and those less fortunate seems to cut across all types in society.  Religious types, non-religious, well off, and those that are one missed check from having to seek assistance, why this is is a fucking mystery to me.  I guess some people just need to be able to look down their noses at someone.


  1. Hey, I am a Republican Christian. My motto is "I'm OK. Fuck you."

  2. We live in one country; the same rules for everybody makes sense. Keep the drug testing just be sure we ALL are tested, or none of us are tested.

    Re the comment - consider fully, the source of ignorance and try to move on.

  3. I got to see the affect of a positive drug test up front and personal - I was a Master with two Techs under me running their own section. The guy managing my crypto vault testing positive for
    THC. Naturally, I cried foul. Well, the commander expected me to do so and we did a "commander's directed urine-analaysis that very day - another postive - then, had it verified by two separate labs -
    The man had 17 years in service and was discharged three years from retirement. Okay, the AF said, don't smoke dope. So, as bad as it was - I blamed him and not the system.
    Here is the rub - where does this shit stop? A kid fucked up in the head from Bush's war in Iraq can't get help from the VA because he smokes dope with this ninetee year old who is fucking his brains out and keeping him out of jail?
    My brother gets SSI - a chronic alcoholic - they going to give him a breathalizer?

    Take from the poor and give to the rich - that is the GOP plan - the more they can cut people programs the more the bastards can cater to their rich patrons and buddies at the country clubs.

    fuck em...

    Have a happy...



  4. Blog Fodder, Yeah and Heyzues loves me and thinks you suck!!

  5. The entire failed drug war is an act of fascism. Combined with a "war on terror" they will destroy our freedoms completely.

    Time to end both of them.

    Here's to the inebriation of your choice and a happy new year.

  6. It's okay if I miss the point at times, or have a different point of view.

    And take into consideration that in my local area a lot of deadbeats are on drugs, even if they aren't on welfare.

    There's plenty of crime here and the jail is always full of them.

  7. Keep the drug testing just be sure we ALL are tested, or none of us are tested.

    Based on that reasoning they will go with none being tested.

  8. Based on that reasoning they will go with none being tested.
    Exactly, that is the point. If you are going to piss test anyone, no one should be exempt, piss test everyone or nobody.

  9. Here's a suggestion I received from folks commenting on a post I wrote about drug testing welfare recipients... let's do it. Let's piss test welfare recipients. But ONLY if we also piss test anyone drawing a dime of federal funding: social security recipients, those on Medicare/Medicaid, anyone receiving a farm subsidy, anyone drawing a retirement check from the government (military, clerical, whatever) anyone who's getting a dime of taxpayer cash from the government.
    Now, you got the piss thing all worked out, how long before you hear the right screaming about unreasonable search and seizure when their moms and dads have to find a clinic, pay for their own tests, and then fight false positive results?
    This is just one more way for assholes to stereotype folks who are 'beneath' them. The testing would be too cumbersome, too expensive, would save far less than predicted, and in the end would punish the children of parents who might have smoked a joint in the past three months. When most of the people drawing assistance have minor children living in poverty, why would you want the kids to suffer for the sins of the fathers?
    Anyone who thinks drug testing is "working out" hasn't seen it in action. It's selective enforcement, aimed at middle-class and poor people, and is nothing more than selfishness on parade.

  10. ... and as per usual, corporate drug-testing labs, which stand to rake in oodles of our tax money for a worthless procedure have NOTHING to do with this. Nothing!!


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